The only reason I am down on this winter, are the strong la nina potential, and the potential for an unfavorable pacific pattern. If we hold to the -NAO, along with the northern/se ridge battleground, we could have a good wintry mix/ice storm pattern, esp. during NAO transition periods. The Snow threat may not be that much, but the Ice threat could be greater. Also further south even though we may not have many pure snow shots, it only takes 1 big one esp. south of I-40 to have an above average winter. Just like 07-08 and 08-09 did for several people.