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Offline Sbeagles

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Re: Falls Push For Winter
« Reply #225 on: November 16, 2009, 06:03:13 PM »
Do not worry as I believe this year is going to be epic. Things are finally starting to change in the extended period as well.
Today has been a PITA tho because the 12Z GFS looks wacky as the OP and its member are not wanting to agree. Hop on the wild train of model madness. Its going to be this way for the next 2 weeks. Nuff said till the 12Z Euro comes out.

Nashville_wx I have always loved reading your opinion on stuff. Your opinion of this being a epic winter gets me excited. I know anything can happen in tennessee in the winter but I like the way things are looking.

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Re: Falls Push For Winter
« Reply #226 on: November 16, 2009, 10:42:49 PM »
Now this is rare..Memphis Int'l is the coldest location in the state at this hour. Only in a cold air advection event...

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TNZ002-004-019-021-049-052-054-088>092-170500-
WEST TENNESSEE

CITY           SKY/WX    TMP DP  RH WIND       PRES   REMARKS
MEMPHIS INTL   DRIZZLE   47  44  90 W9        29.95S
NWS MEMPHIS      N/A     48 N/A N/A MISG        N/A
JACKSON        LGT RAIN  52  50  93 W13       29.90R
DYERSBURG      CLOUDY    50  45  81 W12       29.91S
UNION CITY     CLOUDY    51  50  97 W12       29.86F
HUNTINGDON     CLOUDY    53  51  93 W10       29.87S
LEXINGTON      CLOUDY    60  59  97 S7        29.85
SAVANNAH       CLOUDY    58  57  96 S6        29.88
$$

TNZ008-025-027-028-033-062-065-066-170500-
NORTH MIDDLE TENNESSEE

CITY           SKY/WX    TMP DP  RH WIND       PRES   REMARKS
NASHVILLE      CLOUDY    60  53  77 S15       29.90F
DICKSON        CLOUDY    59  54  82 SE7       29.87F
PORTLAND         N/A     57  50  77 SE5       29.91F
CLARKSVILLE    LGT RAIN  58  55  90 E7        29.87F
SMYRNA         CLOUDY    61  53  74 S3        29.92F
MURFREESBORO   CLOUDY    60  52  75 S3        29.92
LIVINGSTON     CLOUDY    61  43  51 S3        29.95F
CROSSVILLE     CLOUDY    54  42  64 CALM      29.97F
$$

TNZ061-075-076-078-094-096-097-170500-
SOUTH MIDDLE TENNESSEE

CITY           SKY/WX    TMP DP  RH WIND       PRES   REMARKS
LEWISBURG      CLOUDY    57  54  88 SE5       29.91F
FAYETTEVILLE     N/A     57  50  78 S5        29.93
WINCHESTER     CLOUDY    59  48  67 E7        29.94
MCMINNVILLE    CLOUDY    53  49  86 CALM      29.94F
COLUMBIA       CLOUDY    62  53  72 SE3       29.88F
$$

TNZ017-018-042-046-047-170500-
NORTHEAST TENNESSEE

CITY           SKY/WX    TMP DP  RH WIND       PRES   REMARKS
TRI CITIES     CLEAR     52  41  66 SW5       30.00F
$$

TNZ012-013-036-069-073-074-170500-
CENTRAL EAST TENNESSEE

CITY           SKY/WX    TMP DP  RH WIND       PRES   REMARKS
KNOXVILLE      PTCLDY    52  44  74 CALM      29.97F
OAK RIDGE      CLEAR     48  44  86 CALM      29.99F
$$

TNZ083-085-099-170500-
SOUTHEAST TENNESSEE

CITY           SKY/WX    TMP DP  RH WIND       PRES   REMARKS
CHATTANOOGA    MOCLDY    51  46  83 CALM      29.97S

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Re: Falls Push For Winter
« Reply #227 on: November 18, 2009, 05:55:32 PM »
Colder than expected day today. I only got to 48.

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Re: Falls Push For Winter
« Reply #228 on: November 21, 2009, 03:07:16 PM »
Wow, CPC is really going with some negative anomalies in the east.








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Re: Falls Push For Winter
« Reply #229 on: November 23, 2009, 06:50:24 AM »
Interesting looking storm system depicted last night on the GFS 0Z maps for a storm system 12/1 - 12/3...






Big rainmaker with a blast of cold air and maybe an extended period of snow showers and flurries behind it.  Still a ways off though...

I'm not sure how believable that storm system is nearly stalling out over the Lakes.  If that's the case, it could be fun and games with snow showers rotating down. 
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Re: Falls Push For Winter
« Reply #230 on: November 23, 2009, 11:17:15 AM »
12Z takes the track too far West. Its going to keep bouncing around so something to work with. Right now models are really struggling to take hold of things past day 5. I would wait to see the 12z Euro before we go one way or another. Last nights Euro/GFS 8-10Day mean was getting a bit closer. 6Z showed quite a monster! from 216 to 228 hours.
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Re: Falls Push For Winter
« Reply #231 on: November 23, 2009, 12:14:01 PM »
6Z Ensemble Mean... 12Z continues the theme just a bit different. There is a good possibility that the start of next week brings winter weather but as we all know things could change.
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« Last Edit: November 23, 2009, 12:22:09 PM by Nashville_wx »


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Re: Falls Push For Winter
« Reply #232 on: November 23, 2009, 02:39:32 PM »
Hpc put this out today concerning next week.
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION
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NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD
139 PM EST SUN NOV 22 2009

VALID 12Z WED NOV 25 2009 - 12Z SUN NOV 29 2009

THE ECMWF CONTINUES TO BE THE MOST CONSISTENT OF THE GLOBAL MODELS
WITH THE HANDLING OF THE UPCOMING PATTERN ACROSS THE NATION...SO
ONCE AGAIN RELIED HEAVILY ON ITS MASS FIELDS TO CONSTRUCT THE
PRELIMINARY FRONTS AND PRESSURES FOR DAYS 3 THROUGH 7. THE 00Z/22
DETERMINISTIC ECMWF IS A MORE AMPLIFIED VERSION OF THE 12Z/21 EC
ENSEMBLE MEAN...SO THE TWO BLENDED...PARTICULARLY AT THE LATER
TIME RANGES...SHOULD AFFORD A MORE STABLE FORECAST. THE GFS...GEM
GLOBAL...AND UKMET CANNOT AGREE ON THE DEGREE OF AMPLIFICATION OF
THE CRITICAL WAVE OVER THE EAST BY DAYS 5 AND 6...SO ARE NOT
ESPECIALLY USEFUL FOR THIS FORECAST.

...UPDATED PRELIMS AND AFTN FINALS ARE BASED ON 00Z ECMWF DAYS 3
AND 4 AND ECMWF/GFS ENS MEANS DAYS 5-7.THERE IS GOOD MODEL
AGREEMENT DAYS 3 AND 4 WED/THU AS A CLOSED LOW MOVES NEWD IN THE
GREAT LAKES REGION WHILE A STRONG DIGGING SHORTWAVE DIVES SEWD
THRU THE DAKOTAS/CENTRAL PLAINS AND RESULTS IN FORMING ANOTHER
STRONG CLOSED MID LEVEL LOW SYSTEM IN THE CENTRAL MS/LOWER OH
VALLEY REGION BY EARLY THURSDAY. THIS RESULTS IN RAINY CONDITIONS
ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES REGION WED WITH SNOW ACROSS THE ERN DAKOTAS
IN MN AND WRN WI. SNOW CONDITIONS WILL SPREAD SEWD ACROSS IA/IL
INTO IN/OH/KY AND NRN TN LATE THURSDAY AND INTO THE CENTRAL AND
PORTIONS OF SRN APPLCHNS LATE THURSDAY INTO EARLY FRIDAY. THERE IS
THE POTENTIAL FOR SOME POCKETS OF HEAVIER CONVECTIVE SNOWFALL AS
THE MID LEVEL CLOSES OFF IN THIS REGION.



DETAILS FOR DAYS 5-7 BECOME MORE DIFFICULT AND CONFIDENCE IS
LESSENED AS TO THE LOCATION AND TRACK OF A CLOSED OFF MID LEVEL
CENTER AS IT MOVES EAST AND NEWD THRU THE CENTRAL APPLCHNS AND
NEWD. OP MODELS 00Z/06Z GFS/UKMET/GFSP/ECMWF ALL HAVE A MORE SRLY
TRACK OF THE MID LEVEL CLOSED LOW THAN PRIOR RUNS WHILE CMC AND
ENS MEANS OF GFS AND ECWMF TAKE A MID LEVEL CENTER 200-250 NM
FARTHER NORTH. STRONG DYNAMICS/AND MID LEVEL COLD POOL WITH THE
CENTER INDICATE A THREAT OF CONVECTIVE SNOWFALL NEAR ITS TRACK.
THE SRN MOST SOLUTIONS ARE ACROSS VA AS FAR SOUTH AS THE NC BORDER
AND CONSIST OF 06Z GFS AND 00Z/06Z GFSP RUNS. LAGGED AVERAGE
FORECASTS OF THE PAST 4 RUNS OF GFS AND ECMWF ALONG WITH AN 8
MEMBER COMBINED LAGGED AVERAGE FORECAST OF THESE MODELS INDICATE A
MID LEVEL LOW CENTER FARTHER NWD OVER NY TO LAKE ERIE. THIS IS A
PREFERED HPC SOLUTION AT THIS TIME AND IS DEPICTED WELL BY GFS AND
ECMWF ENS MEANS. THIS RESULTS IN A SNOW THREAT ACROSS FRIDAY
ACROSS WRN PORTIONS OF PA/NY/ NWRN MTN PORTIONS OF WV/VA/MD AND
INTO WRN NEW ENG LATE FRI WITH RAIN ACROSS THE MID ATLC AND
NORTHEAST/NEW ENG COASTS. A MORE SWD TRACK OF THE MID LEVEL CENTER
WOULD SHIFT THE COLDER PCPN TYPE FARTHER SWD. DEEPENING SFC LOW
OFF THE NEW ENG COAST WILL BRING BREEZY CONDITIONS ACROSS MOST OF
THE EAST FROM GA NWD FRI AND SAT.

PARALLEL GFSP 00Z/06Z RUNS ARE VERY STRONG WITH THE MID LEVEL AND
HAVE THE SRN MOST TRACK OF ALL MODELS. SFC LOW INDICATING
PRESSURES AS LOW AS 975 MB OFF CAPE COD WITH INLAND HIGH WIND AND
COASTAL STORM CONDITIONS. 12Z GFSP IS WEAKER THAN PRIOR RUNS BUT
STILL THE FARTHEST SOUTH TRACK AND HAS RAISED ITS SFC PRESSURE
15MB OFF THE NEW COAST COMPARED TO ITS PRIOR RUN. THIS WILL BE A
GOOD TEST FOR THIS MODEL AS IT IS CURRENTLY EXPECTED TO REPLACE
THE CURRENT GFS MID DEC.
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Re: Falls Push For Winter
« Reply #233 on: November 23, 2009, 05:13:00 PM »
18Z GFS Ensemble . If anyone would to know more about these images let me know.









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Re: Falls Push For Winter
« Reply #234 on: November 23, 2009, 05:17:29 PM »
Also this is good to see! Same go in the 8-14 day.






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Re: Falls Push For Winter
« Reply #235 on: November 23, 2009, 05:20:10 PM »
I know we say this at the beginning of every winter but I seriously think this one will be different than the last few. I don't remember the last time CPC put us in the below normal temp section of their long range forecast map, yet they have. Would you agree Nashvillewx?
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Re: Falls Push For Winter
« Reply #236 on: November 23, 2009, 06:01:33 PM »
I'm loving that HPC discussion page and the model runs... ::snowman:: ::yum::

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Re: Falls Push For Winter
« Reply #237 on: November 23, 2009, 06:30:29 PM »
Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow...... ::snowman::

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Re: Falls Push For Winter
« Reply #238 on: November 23, 2009, 06:42:35 PM »
also think the cpc is under estimating the precip. with the current el nino pattern looking like to take shape. should  develop a nice split flow with the southern tropical jet becoming very active in time. could  n should be fun times ahead.

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Re: Falls Push For Winter
« Reply #239 on: November 23, 2009, 06:59:35 PM »
I'll give $100 to anyone who makes it  ::snowman:: so I get out of work for a while.

 

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